Hall Of Fame Debate: Gimme Five!!!
I thought that this would be a fun way to start off the ‘Hall Of Fame Debate’ at 30-Year Old Cardboard.
What I am seeking is your list of five eligible players that you would give your vote to for Hall of Fame election. Your list can be made up of players that have been on the ballot for several years or guys that are fairly new to the list of eligible players.
**My one requisite is that you omit any/all of the players that are eligible for the first time in 2013. So, no Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Biggio, Piazza, etc… We will discuss those guys, I promise, in great detail.
But for now, I want to see what kind of dialogue we can get going about the players on the prior ballots that have yet to make the cut.
I am going to participate in this as well. You can say that am giving myself five, if you wish.
And here they are, in random order:
Tim Raines
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Rafael Palmeiro
Dale Murphy
Agree or Disagree with my picks? Great, let’s chat about it.
Ultimately, I will compile a list of all of the players that make the cut in your eyes and try to examine their careers further.
Thank you for your participation. Have a great night!!
PETE ROSE!, Dale Murphy, Rafael Palmeiro, Tim Raines, Jeff Bagwell
Eric- Nice list!
Ted Simmons, Lee Smith, Pete Rose, Tim Raines, Harold Baines, are my choices. The stats speak for themselves on all those players.
Ron- Ted Simmons, huh? Interesting…
Simmons is a great pick!!
Just can’t get there with Palmeiro, the stats are there but he is a big fat liar and never was one of the top people in the game during his career.
I would go with Pete Rose, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, Mark McGwire and Dale Murphy.
Adam- No to Raffy, but yes to McGwire? Hmmm…
What if Palmeiro was telling the truth about that B12 shot that he got from Tejada? I think MLB should have looked into that more and instead of looking into that, they got their big name player who failed a drug test, to say our system works.
You don’t have over 3,000 hits, close to 600 home runs and win multiple gold gloves without being one of the top players in the game during your career.
Even if he didn’t lie, the numbers speak volumes about the talent. Think about the other three guys to amass what Raffy accomplished – Aaron, Mays, Murray – baseball royalty!
I never considered him elite, or even exceptional. He was extremely streaky, and his accomplishments are not matched by many….
Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Lee smith, Tim Raines and i wish Don Mattingly if effort was a category in stats he would be in in my book
Jeff- Solid, Solid List!!
My list is a mix of eligible and non-eligible players that I think deserve in the HOF.
Tim Raines, Thurman Munson, Albert Belle, Fred McGriff and Pete Rose.
Matt- I can dig four of your picks. But Albert Belle? WHOA!!!
Dude when I saw his average year numbers, I couldn’t believe he wasn’t in the HOF.
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162 Game AVG Season 1989-2000
BA HR RBI R OPS
.295 40 130 103 .933
If Kirby Puckett is in the HOF, Belle should be in as well.
Puckett 1984-1995
162 Game AVG Season
AVG HR RBI R OPS
.318 19 99 97 .837
They both played 12 seasons and yes Puckett won more WS titles than Belle, but Albert was the premier power hitter when he played and the only reason he’s not in the HOF is because he’s not a nice guy.
Holy cow, those numbers are superb!
Best stats of any catcher not in the Hall already. Hall is short on catchers too.
Ron- That could be true, but a pretty big drop off from the guys that are in… Bench, Berra, Campy
Jack Morris, Kent Herbek, jeff bagwell pete rose and Don Mattingly
Tim Raines, Lee Smith, Fred McGriff, and Jeff Bagwell are my for sure four, if I had to choose a fifth, Jack Morris. I like the idea of putting Thurman Munson in, but he would have to be chosen by the Veteran’s Committee.
Charley- nicely done!
Tim Raines, Harold Baines, Dave Concepcion, Gil Hodges and Buck O’Neil.
Jeff- Dave Concepcion goes right to my heart. I am a big-time fan of the BRM!
Hodges is very overlooked.
If PeeWee and Aparicio are in the Hall, there is NO reason Concepcion is not enshrined. All three have similar numbers.
Jeff- I’m goin to have to dig into that theory…
Hell no on Palmeiro. Other than him I agree with your list. I support Lee Smith & Fred McGriff more than any others & Id really like to see Raines & Murphy get in. Another batch of players include: Dave Parker, Jim Kaat, Mattingly, Larry Walker, Ted Simmons, Dick Allen, Jack Morris, Thurmon Munson, Ken Boyer, Gil Hodges.
Someone mentioned Albert Bell which I side with. The guy had a terrible attitude not sure if it was roid rage or not, but he had 10 straight solid seasons which have gone un-noticed. Maybe he doesnt deserve the HOF, but I like seeing his name mentioned. I dont think anyone linked to roids deserves the HOF!
McGee-Fan51- those are a lot of interesting names you put out there. Jim Kaat is another guys that is constantly overllooked. Tommy John too.
Tim Raines, Jeff Bagwell, Edgar Martinez, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker are my top five choices for holdovers that are on this year’s ballot
Dan, solid list. And another vote of confidence for Larry Walker!
Albert Belle
Juan Gonzalez
Dale Murphy
Tim Raines
Dwight Gooden
We have a Dwight Gooden sighting! He had the best start to a pitchin career that I ever witnessed. Not quite sure if the full resume is HOF worthy, but if you had to vote based on just the first four years of a career, Doc would be in!
Pete Rose
Buck O’Neil
Dick Allen
Jack Morris
Mark McGwire
And another supporter for Big Mac.
O’Neil and Allen are great picks!!
I’m with you on all the above except Trammell.
Needed a few extra years with the bat to get there.
Some say that about Murphy but the Hall is not just about stats.
He was simply one of the greatest embassadors of the game.
Zebbers- while Murphy was a great ambassador of the sport, he was quite a bit more than that. His talent level was on par with that of Dawson and Rice and they are both in…
Lee Smith, Lou Whitaker, Alan Trammell, Fred McGriff, Tim Raines
My top 5:
dave concepcion
thurman munson
lee smith
steve garvey
jack morris
(honorable mention to fred mcgriff and tim/rock raines)