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‘Hall Of Fame Debate’ – Harmon Killebrew VS Jim Thome

‘Hall Of Fame Debate’ – Harmon Killebrew VS Jim Thome

Ok guys, I promise that this week’s ‘Hall of Fame Debate’ will get us back on track after last week’s debacle.

This time around, we’re going to judge two players with very similar skill sets that played two era apart from one another – Harmon Killebrew & Jim Thome.

Both players are most known for their abilities to deliver the longball, and while Thome’s career number is higher than Killebrew’s there is enough in their stats to put the two into a head-to-head battle.

So, that is exactly what I’ll do.

First – the numbers:

Killebrew Thome
Seasons 22 22
Games 2,435 2,543
Hits 2,086 2,328
200 Hit Seasons 0 0
150-199 Hit Seasons 4 4
Batting Average 0.256 0.276
.300+ Seasons 1 3
Batting Titles 0 0
On-Base % 0.376 0.402
Walks Drawn 1559 1747
Strikeouts 1699 2548
Doubles 290 451
Triples 24 26
Home Runs 573 612
30-39 HR Seasons 2 6
40+ HR Seasons 8 6
Stolen Bases 19 19
Runs Scored 1,283 1,583
100-Run Seasons 2 8
RBI 1,584 1,699
100-RBI Seasons 9 9
All-Star 11 5
Gold Glove 0
Silver Slugger 1
ROY 0 0
MVP 1 0
Postseasons 3 10
WS Titles 0 0

The standouts (for me):

  1. Killebrew’s very low number of career hits versus games played
  2. Both players offered very low single season hit tallies
  3. Thome’s .402 on-base percentage
  4. Thome has 850 more strikeouts in 100 more games
  5. Thome’s doubles
  6. Killebrew’s low number of 30-39 HR Seasons
  7. Killebrew’s impressive run of 40-HR Seasons
  8. Thome scored a lot more runs
  9. Thome’s lack of All-Star selections
  10. Thome’s 10 postseason appearances

Wow, this one is going to be tough.  And it is even tougher when I witnessed the full career of one player and never saw the other player play in a single game.

This time around, I will have to let the numbers do the talking…

And for me, the numbers give a slight edge to Jim Thome.

When I examine the careers of these two players, it is obvious that each of them was in the lineup to offer offense.  And Jim Thome did that.  And he did it at a greater rate.  Thome scored 300 more runs than Killebrew and he also scored 100 or more runs in eight different seasons.  His home run tally was a little higher than that of Killebrew’s but for me it was the 12 seasons of 30+ over Killebrew’s 10 that stood out.  Thome also delivered a lot more doubles (which can speak to the ballparks he played in) and a much higher on-base percentage.

On the negative side, Thome struck out 850 more times than Killebrew – that is simply awful.  He was also selected as an All-Star just five times while Killebrew made the All-Star team eleven times in an era packed with elite players in the outfield.  Thome was never a ROY or MVP, but he did participate in ten postseasons while Killebrew just made 3.

Ultimately, I went with Thome for two reasons: Run scoring & On-Base percentage.

Killebrew.Thome

So, who gets your vote in the battle of ‘500-HR Club’ members?

Cast your vote now!!

2011 Headline: Jim Thome Joins 600-HR Club!!!

2011 Headline: Jim Thome Joins 600-HR Club!!!

On this day in 2011, Jim Thome became just the eighth player in major league history to hit 600 or more home runs in his big league career.

The shot came against the Detroit Tigers in a game in which Thome also connected for #599.

In the seventh inning, and with two men on base, Thome launched a pitch from Daniel Schlereth over the outfield wall and made baseball history.  Three runs scored, and the Twins won the game.

Happy Anniversary Mr. Thome!!!

Hall Of Fame Debate: Cast Your Vote For Jim Thome!!!

Hall Of Fame Debate: Cast Your Vote For Jim Thome!!!

As we sit just days before the start of the 2013 baseball season, I like to keep an eye on the list of remaining unsigned free agents to see who might get picked up. 

And while there are some pretty accomplished players on the list, the one player that I am very surprised to see still sitting there is Jim Thome.

Thome is certainly past his prime years, and he has been a part-time player for the last two seasons.  But even at 42, Thome has proved that he still has some pop left in his bat.  In 2011, he competed in 93 games and hit 15 home runs.  And in 2012, he played in 58 games and connected for 8 long-balls. 

To be honest, I am shocked that a team like the Red Sox or Yankees have not reached out to him on a 1-year deal just to add a little more run production and power to their bench.

So, that leads me up to today’s Hall Of Fame Debate: Cast Your Vote For Jim Thome!!!

Thome photo

Over the course of his career, Jim Thome has put up some amazing power and run producing numbers.  As of today, he ranks in 7th place on the all-time list for home runs.  He is 24th in all-time RBI.  And he is tied for 50th on the career list for runs scored.

His power and run production is among the greatest in major league baseball history.  And the company that he keeps on those lists is baseball royalty.

But, does Jim Thome’s name deserve to be mentioned among them?  Some of these players are the greatest of all-time – Aaron, Mays, Frank Robinson, and more.  These players possessed all-around skills that Jim Thome did not have.

Thome connected for 40 or more home runs during six seasons.  And he collected between 30-39 home runs six more times.  He also drove in 100 or more RBI in 9 of his 22 major league seasons. 

For all of the production that Thome offered, he fits into the ‘slugger’ theme very well.  Thome led the league in strikeouts during three separate seasons, and with his lifetime strikeouts tally of 2,548, he ranks in second place, just 49 strikeouts behind the leader, Reggie Jackson.

Thome’s career batting average of .276 is solid, but not outstanding.  He reached the .300 mark just three times during his career, while hitting less than .260 during twelve seasons.

Jim Thome has collected 2,328 hits during the course of his major league career.   When looking at the other hitters from his era that have reached similar power numbers, their total hits are much, much higher than what Thome has been able to achieve.  Ken Griffey, Jr had 2,781 hits, Sammy Sosa has 2,408, and Alex Rodriguez has 2,901.  And like Thome, all of these guys spent a lot of their time batting clean-up.

Jim Thome’s teams made it to the post-season ten times.  They appeared in two World Series match-ups losing both.

Thome is a 5-time All-Star.  He won a Silver Slugger Award in 1996 and finished in the ‘Top 7’ for the MVP award four times with his highest placing of 4th coming in 2003.

So, is Jim Thome Hall of Fame worthy???

For me, the answer is ‘No’.  While Thome has apparently put up these power numbers while doing it ‘clean’, his career was basically built off of the fact that he could hit the ball out of the ballpark – and that for me is just not enough.  His career batting average and hits tally are far from impressive for a 22-year player.  And he was never known for being above average at defense or base running.

Jim Thome was a monster slugger – and that is it.  He has a lot of contemporaries that did just what he did for other teams, but some of them did quite a bit more in other parts of the game and those are the ones that deserve consideration for enshrinement.

I may be in the minority with this, but I find Thome to be an extremely good 1-dimensional player.  And that is not Hall of Fame-esque.

Gavel

Now give me your opinion – Is Jim Thome worthy of Hall of Fame enshrinement??

2011 Headline: Jim Thome Joins 600-HR Club!!!

2011 Headline: Jim Thome Joins 600-HR Club!!!

On this day in 2011, Jim Thome became just the eighth player in major league history to hit 600 or more home runs in his big league career.

The shot came against the Detroit Tigers in a game in which Thome also connected for #599.

In the seventh inning, and with two men on base, Thome launched a pitch from Daniel Schlereth over the outfield wall and made baseball history.  Three runs scored, and the Twins won the game.

Happy Anniversary Mr. Thome!!!

Jim Thome Passes Sammy Sosa For 7th Place All-Time With 610th Home Run

Jim Thome Passes Sammy Sosa For 7th Place All-Time With 610th Home Run

By Associated Press

CLEVELAND — Jim Thome hit his 610th home run to pass Sammy Sosa and move into seventh place on the all-time list.

Thome led off the fourth inning for Baltimore on Friday night and connected off Cleveland’s Derek Lowe. It was the 41-year-old’s first homer since being acquired by the Orioles from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 1, and sixth of the season overall.

It was Thome’s 189th homer at Progressive Field. He played for the Indians from 1991 through the 2002 season and returned for the final two months of 2011.

Thome holds the Indians’ record with 337 homers. He has also played for the Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers and Minnesota.

 

My First Time – Jim Thome – September 4, 1991

My First Time – Jim Thome – September 4, 1991

The Setting – The Metrodome.  Minneapolis, Minnesota.

From Thome – ‘I was 20 going on 21 and I am going to play at the Metrodome.  I saw Kirby Puckett during the first batting practice, and around the cage.  He actually walked by and said hello to me – he made it a point to say ‘Welcome’ and I’ll always remember that’.

The Boxscore – Indians 8, Twins 4.  Thome goes 2-for-4 with a run scored and RBI. 

FINAL – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

FINAL – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

Wow, what a season.  Tons of surprises and tons of disappointments too…

Let’s get right into it.  These are the baseball milestones I was most looking forward to from the 2011 baseball season. 

Here is how that panned out…

Derek Jeter needs 74 hits to reach the magical number of 3,000 for his career.

Jeter’s season ended with 3,088 career hits.  He now rests at 20th on the all-time list.  If he has another solid campaign in 2012, he could get all the way up to somewhere between 11-13.

Jim Thome needs 11 home runs to join the 600 HR club.

Thome has 604 career home runs, ranking him at 8 on the all-time list.  6 more homers and he moves to number 7.

Mariano Rivera needs 41 saves to become just the second pitcher to reach 600.

Mo finished the season with 603 career saves, and 1st place on the All-time list.  It is very possible that he sees number 650 next year if health stays on his side!!

If Ichiro collects 200 or more hits, he has 11 200-hit seasons on his resume – a MLB record!!!

Ichiro finished the season with 184 hits and a .310 batting average.  And while that is not the kind of production we have become used to from Ichiro, it is still a very solid season.  Streak Busted!

If Dan Uggla can amass 30 or more home runs with the Braves, he will continue his record-setting as the game’s greatest slugging second baseman.

Uggla kept the streak alive by belting 35 home runs, a career high.  His streak is now extended to five straight seasons.  He has a very solid 30+ game hitting streak to thank, for sure.

Mark Teixeira needs just 25 blasts to reach number 300 of his career.

Tex finished the season with 37 home runs and 312 career blasts.  At just 31 years of age, the sky is the limit for this very talented slugger. 

Can Albert Pujols hit 30+ home runs and drive in 100+ RBI for the 11th straight season and build on baseball history?

Mission failed.  37 home runs and 98 RBI leaves Pujols 2 RBI short of extending his record.  Kind of sucks – hopefully he can stay healthy in 2012, wherever he is playing…

Adam Dunn needs 46 home runs to reach 400.  Can his new home in Chicago become his latest launching pad?

Dunn connected for just 11 home runs in 2011.  He has 365 for his career, and while 400 is still very likely the question is what season will it occur in 2012 or 2015?

Alex Rodriguez is preparing to hit 30+ home runs and 100+ RBI for the 14th consecutive season and 15th overall.  Can he do it again???

A-Rod managed to reach just 16 and 62 this year, an injury plagued one.  Here’s to hoping that he can get back on track in 2012!!

The 2011 baseball season was fantastic!!!  It was a thrill to watch these milestones, and some other unexpected ones unfold.

I cannot wait for next season to start!!!!

3/4 Through – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

3/4 Through – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

We’re at the 3/4 mark of the 2011 baseball season, so it is time for an update as to how some of the milestones that stood to be reached are faring so far.  I will keep the original post in tact, and just provide a quick update on each below.

All 3/4 season updates will be in Blue.  Enjoy.

I had a great time doing this prior to the start of the 2010 baseball season, so I thought I would give it another go as we prepare for the start of this upcoming one too.

And away we go….

Derek Jeter needs 74 hits to reach the magical number of 3,000 for his career.

30 hits to go until Jeter hits 3,000.

As we all know, Derek Jeter collected #3,000 this past weekend while going 5-for-5 in a Yankee’s win.  Jeter became the 28th member of the ‘3,000 Hits Club’, the second to collect #3,000 as a home run, and the first Yankee!!!  Congratulations Derek!!!

Jeter now has 3,045 hits.  By the end of the season he should be sitting in 20th place on the All-time list.

Jim Thome needs 11 home runs to join the 600 HR club.

9 dingers away – Thome has homered just twice in 20 games.

5 more still needed – We’ll see…

Jim Thome smashed number 600 just earlier this week.  He has been coming on strong as of late.  Now we need to see if he can challenge the guys ahead of him.  Next up is #609 and Sammy Sosa.  Go get him Jim!!

Mariano Rivera needs 41 saves to become just the second pitcher to reach 600.

Mo has already collected 13 saves this season; he sits 28 saves away from 600.

Rivera has 22 saves so far this year and is just 18 away from 600.  He’s on his way!

Mo is 9 saves away from 600.  He should be there in the coming weeks.  And Trevo Hoffman’s 601 as the all-time mark is easily gettable as well.

If Ichiro collects 200 or more hits, he has 11 200-hit seasons on his resume – a MLB record!!!

Through 43 games, Ichiro has 53 hits.  He is well on his way…

Ichiro has 101 hits through 90 games – It will be an amazing accomplishment if he can do it.  We’ll have to wait and see.

With 134 hits in 121 games, it is very unlikely that Ichiro gets to 200 this year.  155 is more likely…

If Dan Uggla can amass 30 or more home runs with the Braves, he will continue his record-setting as the game’s greatest slugging second baseman.

Uggla has 7 home runs through 46 games; he needs to pick up the pace if he wants to hit 30.

Uggla has 15 home runs through 92 games so far this year.  If he goes on a power trip he still has a chance but the streak is in jeopardy.  25 would still be impressive, but 30 would be unreal!!

Nobody is hotter than Dan Uggla right now.  After a 33-game hit streak, Uggla is sitting at 27 home runs.  And with almost 40 games still left to play, one has to wonder if his hot hitting can get him to the 40-HR mark for the first time.  We’ll see…

Mark Teixeira needs just 25 blasts to reach number 300 of his career.

15 homers away from 300 – looking good!!

With 25 round-trippers to far this year, Mark Teixeira sits at 300 for his career.  And at just 31 years old the sky is the limit for this slugger.  I see at least another 18-20 coming during the second half.

Tex is still crushing balls out of parks all across the country.  He currently has 32 home runs on the season and 307 for his career.  #400 could come as soon as 2013!!

Can Albert Pujols hit 30+ home runs and drive in 100+ RBI for the 11th straight season and build on baseball history?

With 7 and 25 through 45 games, the streak looks like it is in serious jeopardy.  If anyone can turn it on quickly, it is Pujols.

In 78 games, Albert Pujols has 18 home runs and 50 RBI.  Coming off a major injury, nobody knows how Albert will rebound.  He still has a shot at 30/100 but the odds may be stacked against him.  I’d love to see him give it a run though!!

Nobody can do what this guy does.  Albert is already at 30 home runs, but has just 76 RBI.  All he needs is one superb homestand and he will be back on pace to collect 100 RBI for the 11th straight year.

Adam Dunn needs 46 home runs to reach 400.  Can his new home in Chicago become his latest launching pad?

Just 4 home runs in 2011, the 400-mark will not be met this year.  But we’ll keep watching.  🙂

With just 9 dingers on the year, the chase for 400 will not be realized this year.  And now the 1-time certain ‘500-HR Club’ member is more a question than a certainty.

Adam Dunn is done.  With just 11 round-trippers so far this year, he is still 35 away from 400.  Not gonna happen.

Alex Rodriguez is preparing to hit 30+ home runs and 100+ RBI for the 14th consecutive season and 15th overall.  Can he do it again???

A-Rod has just 8 and 24.  He has almost missed this mark a few times, and he always seems to deliver at the end.  Will 2011 follow suit?

This goal is in serious jeopardy.  The second half of the season starts on Thursday, but A-Rod may be out until late-August.  With 13 & 52 – season number 15 is not going to happen.  Sorry Alex.

A-Rod is coming back from being on the disabled list – and we are still nto sure when he will become a regular in the Yankees’ line-up.  Resting at 13/52, A-Rod is having the least productive season of his big league career.  I would love to see a reboud in 2012!!!

So there you have it – These are some of the baseball milestones that I will be tracking as the 2011 season gets under way.

Next update will come during the All-Star break…  Stay tuned.

Next update will come in late August.  Stay tuned and Thanks for reading!!!

Next update to come at the conclusion of the 2011 baseball season.  Thanks for reading.

What are you going to be watching for this year??

Jim Thome Hits 600th Home Run Of His Big League Career!!!

Jim Thome Hits 600th Home Run Of His Big League Career!!!

By NOAH TRISTER, AP Sports Writer

DETROIT (AP)—Minnesota slugger Jim Thome(notes) become the eighth player to hit 600 home runs, connecting twice against the Detroit Tigers on Monday night.

The 40-year-old Thome hit a two-run homer in the sixth inning for No. 599, then added a three-run shot in the seventh. The milestone came on a 2-1 pitch from Daniel Schlereth.

Both homers were hit to the opposite field. When No. 600 cleared the fence in left, Thome raised his right fist as he went around first base, and the crowd in Detroit came to its feet to applaud him.

Thome became the second-fastest hitter to reach the milestone, hitting his 600th homer in at-bat No. 8,137. Babe Ruth needed only 6,921 at-bats.

His 65 home runs against Detroit are his most against any team.

The Tigers posted a congratulatory message on the scoreboard after Thome’s homer, and the Twins came out to greet him at home plate.

Fighting injuries during a frustrating season in Minnesota, Thome hasn’t received nearly the amount of national publicity that his predecessors who reached the milestone did. Even Derek Jeter’s accomplishment of 3,000 hits earlier this season dwarfed the attention Thome has been getting for a chase that’s far more rare.

Only seven hitters have hit more home runs than the bulky Thome: Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Ken Griffey Jr., Alex Rodriguez and Sammy Sosa. Rodriguez joined the 600-homer club last August.

It was perhaps fitting that Thome reached No. 600 in a matchup of AL Central rivals. He hit 334 home runs with Cleveland and 134 with the Chicago White Sox.

Thome is the oldest person to hit his 600th homer. Sosa previously held that mark at 38 years, 220 days. He reached the milestone in 2007.

1/2 Through – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

1/2 Through – Milestones To Look Forward To During The 2011 Major League Baseball Season

We’re at the 1/2 mark of the 2011 baseball season, so it is time for an update as to how some of the milestones that stood to be reached are faring so far.  I will keep the original post in tact, and just provide a quick update on each below.    All 1/2 season updates will be in Green.  Enjoy.

I had a great time doing this prior to the start of the 2010 baseball season, so I thought I would give it another go as we prepare for the start of this upcoming one too.

And away we go….

Derek Jeter needs 74 hits to reach the magical number of 3,000 for his career.

30 hits to go until Jeter hits 3,000.

As we all know, Derek Jeter collected #3,000 this past weekend while going 5-for-5 in a Yankee’s win.  Jeter became the 28th member of the ‘3,000 Hits Club’, the second to collect #3,000 as a home run, and the first Yankee!!!  Congratulations Derek!!!

Jim Thome needs 11 home runs to join the 600 HR club.

9 dingers away – Thome has homered just twice in 20 games.

5 more still needed – We’ll see…

Mariano Rivera needs 41 saves to become just the second pitcher to reach 600.

Mo has already collected 13 saves this season; he sits 28 saves away from 600.

Rivera has 22 saves so far this year and is just 18 away from 600.  He’s on his way!

If Ichiro collects 200 or more hits, he has 11 200-hit seasons on his resume – a MLB record!!!

Through 43 games, Ichiro has 53 hits.  He is well on his way…

Ichiro has 101 hits through 90 games – It will be an amazing accomplishment if he can do it.  We’ll have to wait and see.

If Dan Uggla can amass 30 or more home runs with the Braves, he will continue his record-setting as the game’s greatest slugging second baseman.

Uggla has 7 home runs through 46 games; he needs to pick up the pace if he wants to hit 30.

Uggla has 15 home runs through 92 games so far this year.  If he goes on a power trip he still has a chance but the streak is in jeopardy.  25 would still be impressive, but 30 would be unreal!!

Mark Teixeira needs just 25 blasts to reach number 300 of his career.

15 homers away from 300 – looking good!!

With 25 round-trippers to far this year, Mark Teixeira sits at 300 for his career.  And at just 31 years old the sky is the limit for this slugger.  I see at least another 18-20 coming during the second half.

Can Albert Pujols hit 30+ home runs and drive in 100+ RBI for the 11th straight season and build on baseball history?

With 7 and 25 through 45 games, the streak looks like it is in serious jeopardy.  If anyone can turn it on quickly, it is Pujols.

In 78 games, Albert Pujols has 18 home runs and 50 RBI.  Coming off a major injury, nobody knows how Albert will rebound.  He still has a shot at 30/100 but the odds may be stacked against him.  I’d love to see him give it a run though!!

Adam Dunn needs 46 home runs to reach 400.  Can his new home in Chicago become his latest launching pad?

Just 4 home runs in 2011, the 400-mark will not be met this year.  But we’ll keep watching.  🙂

With just 9 dingers on the year, the chase for 400 will not be realized this year.  And now the 1-time certain ‘500-HR Club’ member is more a question than a certainty.

Alex Rodriguez is preparing to hit 30+ home runs and 100+ RBI for the 14th consecutive season and 15th overall.  Can he do it again???

A-Rod has just 8 and 24.  He has almost missed this mark a few times, and he always seems to deliver at the end.  Will 2011 follow suit?

This goal is in serious jeopardy.  The second half of the season starts on Thursday, but A-Rod may be out until late-August.  With 13 & 52 – season number 15 is not going to happen.  Sorry Alex.

So there you have it – These are some of the baseball milestones that I will be tracking as the 2011 season gets under way.

Next update will come during the All-Star break…  Stay tuned.

Next update will come in late August.  Stay tuned and Thanks for reading!!!

What are you going to be watching for this year??